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descendant of refugees[edit]

It is a standard Israeli claim that UNRWA refugee status automatically passes to descendants while UNCHR refugee status never passes to descendants. Actually both claims are false in general, though it remains true that the two sets of rules are different. For UNCHR the most definitive source is the Procedural Handbook, see "derivative refugee status". Zerotalk 04:12, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/08/17/unrwa-has-changed-the-definition-of-refugee/ Zarcademan123456 (talk) 20:12, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

An unreliable op-ed. See here for UNRWA's position. Zerotalk 02:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Scholarly RS - Oxford Handbooks Online Susan Akram The Oxford Handbook of Refugee and Forced Migration Studies Edited by Elena Fiddian Qasmiyeh, Gil Loescher, Katy Long, and Nando Sigona
Chapter: UNRWA and Palestinian Refugees, pages 1 to 10.
Print Publication Date: Jun 2014 Subject: Political Science, International Relations, Comparative Politics Online Publication Date: Aug 2014 DOI:10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199652433.013.00
has a discussion of the definition(s) as well the resultant effects of them. Can't really be reduced to a one-liner. 15:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC) I am also guilty of non signing :)-remedied.Selfstudier (talk) 13:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

thank you for directing me to this source, is very user friendly...I just want to ask a question...under “can Palestine change the definition of a refugee” the source says that “persons whose normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948, and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict.” Then it says that refugees outside of that time period, though not classified as Palestinian refugees, are then afforded assistance by UNRWA. The next paragraph, “how many Palestine Refugees’ access UNRWA services” says in the first sentence “In 2019, 533,000 refugee children attended UNRWA schools, 3.5 million refugees received primary health care services[...]”. I would appreciate you helping me understand who these refugees are...if they are not able to be classified as “Palestinian” refugees per guidelines which stare that they were not residents of Palestine from “1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948”...then are they “stateless” refugees? So in summation my question is: who are these refugees? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zarcademan123456 (talkcontribs)

https://www.unrwa.org/sites/default/files/content/resources/unrwa_in_figures_2019_eng_sep_2019_final.pdf Selfstudier (talk) 11:58, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
@Zarcademan123456: Please don't forget to sign. It is reasonable to be confused because it is confusing. The gory details can be found in this document, where you will find that there are three cateogories: A1 = people meeting the definition themselves and their descendants, A2 = registered people who don't meet the definition, B = people receiving assistance but not registered as refugees. It seems that UNRWA included families in A1 right from the beginning, including children born after 1948, because very early annual reports mention natural increase in the number of refugees (I just checked 1952). Also, quite a lot of refugees meeting the definition can't get help from UNRWA because they don't live in a place covered by UNRWA (those living in Egypt for example). It used to be that they couldn't get help from UNHCR either, but that was changed. The large amount of propaganda around this issue makes it hard to get the historical facts straight. Zerotalk 12:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

New Commissioner-General[edit]

There is an new Commissioner-General, Mr Philipp Lazzarini.https://www.unrwa.org/who-we-are/our-leadership/unrwa-commissioner-general With kind regards Fritzober (talk) 07:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

explain revert[edit]

To Zurkhardo: I reverted your edit because it includes the seriously false statement "UNRWA was established in 1948 by the UN General Assembly (UNGA) to provide relief to all refugees within the State of Israel following the 1948 conflict". Actually it was established in 1949 and covered refugees outside Israel as well as inside. You changed too many things at once for me to go through to check everything you changed. I assume that some of your other changes were good, but please make them one at a time so that they can be reviewed more easily. Zerotalk 05:27, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Fwiw, I looked at the changes too and to me most of them seemed fine. But Wikipedia's diff page makes it seriously difficult to review larger changes.ImTheIP (talk) 12:21, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

To Zurkhardo: Your editing style is antisocial. Look at this and see how hard it is to check your work. And it must be checked, as your initial fundamental errors show. Zerotalk 02:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC) Antisocial is a rather odd way to describe an editing style you do not agree with; the term is usually used to describe extreme mental illness like psychopathy. If you look closely, I am mostly rewording or updating existing materials and sources——and the "initial fundamental error" regarding the foundation date preceded my edits; I had simply moved it around. While I should have double checked, it is inaccurate to suggest I place the erroneous information there.Zurkhardo (talk) 23:20, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

It appears that the budget for UNRWA varies significantly year-to-year. Sometimes it is top 10, sometimes it is top 20. So I removed that claim.ImTheIP (talk) 06:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)