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Not a list of Romance languages[edit]

This is not a List of Romance languages by any means. It is a redirect from List of Gallo-Iberian languages. Are we experienced some vandalism here?--Wetman 13:23, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Dolomites[edit]

The link Dolomites doesn't direct to a language. I think it should be removed, as it should direct to the same language than ladin.--Pere prlpz 12:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quite wrong and imaginative list[edit]

I don't know about other languages but I DO know Spanish quite enough. Any Latin American and Spaniard can tell you how fake is your division of Spanish sub-Languages, even more, the Royal Academy of Spanish Language will explain you a lot more. As an example, if that sub-division is based n pronunciation and local variations, then Mexico has at least 50 to 57 (just in Mexico City we might have 10 or 12). Else: Absurd and stupid is to include "Spanglish", which have as many variations as points it is spoken all along the USA and Mexico border line.

Plus: why then you don't include more established slangs like Lunfardo (Argentina) and Caló (Mexico)? even songs and poetry has been written on those slangs. And Caló has its own divisions such as Tatacha Fú, Cholo, Chilango, Malafacha, Pachuco, Chundo, Chichinfla etc. (and at least Tatacha Fú, Chilango and Chichinfla has poetry and music made on that). Smething is joining the knowledge of everybody and something else is making a crap of that. Hope somebody care thnx GOES11

Categorization[edit]

Please see Talk:Romance languages#Confusion in categories. Any input is appreciated. --Amir E. Aharoni 12:46, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merging and re-sorting[edit]

I am re-sorting this list and merging from Languages of Europe.

I am doing according to Category:Romance languages, which i recently cleaned up according to Ethnologue.

Please comment here on the talk page.

Any input appreciated. --Amir E. Aharoni 21:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Non-French Oïl languages should not be classified under French. Ethnologue is not reliable on this. Man vyi 07:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"often claimed as separate languages from French, but classified as French dialects according to traditional Romance linguistics" might be better worded as something along the lines of: "Oïl languages other than French have in the past been regarded by some as French dialects, but most now have some measure of legal or administrative status as languages distinct from French". Man vyi 07:53, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Currently i put everything that was under Category:Oïl languages at the same level, so French, Franc-Comtois, Norman, and Poitevin-Saintongeais are at the same level; Jèrriais is under Norman and Belgian French is under French. Is that what you suggest? --Amir E. Aharoni 08:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, thanks - it's the POV of the wording in the heading that I suggest needs tweaking. I've proposed above a possible rewording - what do you think? Man vyi 09:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think that anything is good as long as it is sourced. If Ethnologue is bad, cite something else. --Amir E. Aharoni 09:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I finished the cleanup of this article. I plan to merge from Languages of Europe later today. Thanks for cooperation. Comments and corrections are welcome. --Amir E. Aharoni 13:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Romance British language[edit]

I removed Romance British language - couldn't find sources for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amire80 (talkcontribs)

Some copyedit on 1-2 December 2008[edit]

For those who want to follow the details of my edits, you might want to do that in 3 stages:

There are two bigger problems left:

  • The picture of the language tree must be corrected in respect to the Dalmatian language.
  • The template must be worked out: right now it is quite cumbersome.

in addition to copyeditting to ensure inclusion of more information regarding dialects and varieties of different languages.Dc76\talk 03:29, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

North Italian Languages[edit]

I corrected Venetian: the number of 1.5million people is absolutely underestimated, since 60-70% of the population of Region Veneto use it every day, and almost 100% can understand it (including e.g. immigrants or Ladin speakers). More, in western and south Friuli, as well as in Gorizia, Trieste and Istria, this language is commonly used, and also east dialect of Trento is a Venetian dialect.

So I wrote 4.5million, it is not a precise number, but I think it is a good estimate: more, if you consider 8.8million people as Lombard-speaking, that is to say almost all population of Lombardy, where Italian is much more commonly used than Venetian in Veneto, I think you meant to include all bi-lingual speakers (if Lombard can be widely used e.g. in the town Bergamo, it is less often used in the city of Milan, where it is to say that among 2million people, a great part is made by the sons of Italian and foreign immigrants).

There are also a lot of speakers abroad, above all in Brazil and Mexico, but I have no data about, so I cannot give a number. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.162.229.66 (talk) 13:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I forgot to sign: Filippo, 20 January 2009, 14:35, from Padua. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.162.229.66 (talk) 13:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

English a "Romance" language, but classified a Germanic one[edit]

Some academic linguists believe the modern English Language is half-Romance influenced (the evident Norman French influences), thus can be classified a Romance language. [dubious ] I can't imagine any academic or collegiate research on the English language should be redirected to the Romance family. You might well refer English a "Celtic" language, due to the Celto-Briton origins of an amount of words and phrases in it too. + 71.102.2.206 (talk) 03:12, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Malacca Kristang Portuguese[edit]

The near-extinct old Portuguese dialect preserved among the Kristang community of Malacca, Malaysia, deserves mention. 124.189.9.57 (talk) 01:10, 4 May 2012 (UTC) Ian Ison[reply]

Merged[edit]

The article is essentially a mirror of Ethnologue, which is inappropriate. The info is also contained in the relevant articles, so this is also a WP:content fork. — kwami (talk) 22:22, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]